4thWaveNow was started by the mother of a teenage girl who suddenly announced she was a “trans man” after a few weeks of total immersion in YouTube transition vlogs.  (The daughter has since desisted from identifying as transgender.) After much research and fruitless searching for an alternative online viewpoint, this mom began writing about her deepening skepticism of the ever-accelerating medical and media fascination with the phenomenon of “transgender children.”

4thWaveNow has now expanded to feature not only the writing of the founder of this blog, but that of other parents, formerly trans-identified people, and people with professional expertise and experience with young people questioning their gender identity.

Parents, please introduce yourselves and feel welcome here.

From the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow:

I created this site because mine is a viewpoint that is seldom publicly heard: that of a left-leaning parent who is critical of the dominant paradigm regarding transgender politics and treatment. My primary concern is children, teens, and people in their early 20s, particularly girls who are contemplating medical transition. While I may disagree with their views, I do understand that consenting adults have the right to do what they choose with their own bodies and minds.

Online, I have been accused of being “unsupportive,” even “abusive,” simply for daring to question whether lifelong medical treatment–injections and plastic surgeries–is the answer for every young person who has gender dysphoria. In my world, caring about, listening to, and lovingly parenting a child or young adult is not necessarily a synonym for unexamined “support” for everything the child says or wants. In fact, one of the main jobs in parenting a teen is, not coercion, but the offering of alternatives; discussing, and sometimes disagreeing.

It is my contention that the medical and psychological establishments are letting us all down in their rush to diagnose young people as “transgender,” then to give the message that medical treatment is the answer. Much of my writing now and in the future will focus on the adults who are pushing so many kids into extreme treatments. And I do consider hormones and surgery extreme treatment, if there is any possibility that something less drastic might be a solution.

If you are a parent looking for support, you’ve come to the right place. We are interested in hearing from parents, family members,  concerned professionals, and allies from across the political spectrum.  However, I am not personally in accord with conservative, religious-fundamentalist views about sexuality. I am a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people.

Please read blog posts carefully before asking questions or commenting. I will respond when I can to respectful input. I don’t have time to keep arguing the same points over and over again.

Most of the voices in the media and in medicine are in opposition to my views. I’m presenting an alternative.


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    • I am the mother of a teenage boy who very suddenly told us he was gender non-binary about 10 months ago, He has since gone totally transgender and wants to socially present as a girl. He is dressing in more feminine clothing, wearing makeup and wants to be known as female at school. The school is being very supportive of his desire, referring to him with a female name of his choice and using she to refer to him in school correspondence. His father and I are unhappy with all this and think it’s related to his history of Asperger’s and social awkwardness. But I especially am having a lot of trouplbe accepting this whole thing. I feel like I lost my son. So far the mental health professionals he has seen, as well as the school faculty and staff, are totally on board with this change. They basically are going full force ahead treating him as a female. Our son never, I repeat never, mentioned anything about these feelings while growing up. If anything he seemed concerned about wanting to only wear boy colors and styles. This was up to about a year ago. Then he changed extremely suddenly at the age of 15. I have absolutely no support from anyone in the general community to try to figure out if he has an underlying mental health concern or if it is an outgrowth of being on the AS. I truly appreciate this site becasue I least know that others have difficulty accepting this change in their children and the lack of support for skeptical parents. I have tried to find support groups in our are (Richmond VA). but have been unable to find anything other than LBGT groups. If anyone in the Richmond area has a similar situation and would like to correspond or get together let me know.


      • I am sorry you are facing this. I don’t know how these practitioners cannot be held liable for what they are doing to or youth. Public schools are falling in line with agendas that are far beyond their scope. This is not a world of unicorns and butterflies they are sending our kids down.


      • Your story is my story as well. I am so frustrated by the fact that no one seems to see this as a problem. To support my child, feels like I’m supporting his leading a self destructive lifestyle and it won’t end well but I have no idea how to address this. I wish the best for you.


  1. I’d like to offer an update that I believe will give hope to many parents out there: I posted here I believe last february or march, completely at my wits end, terrified for my daughter, and furious with her school. Long story short, it was the “thing” a lot of girls were doing at her school to say they were “trans”. She started saying she was “trans” last October (2016) out of the blue and completely unlike her. This was started with peers and highly encouraged by one teacher in particular, a social worker/counselor at her school, and somewhat even an assistant principal – I am not exaggerating when I say it seemed to be their mission to “turn” as many students as possible, I believe because it gave these adults a sense of being special, popular, heroes to “troubled” kids, all in all feeding immensely narssisistic personalities (of the educators and counselors in the current climate that completely rejects common sense and genuine safety and well being of students). Anyway, I already ranted about this a while back so moving on: My husband, myself, and a number of family members showed up at our daughter’s school (the school accused the group of us, ironically that our daughter didn’t have any support system besides the school), discussed our concerns, demanded our daughter had no further contact with the teacher and social worker/counselor. We also had lots of talks with our daughter about what was really going on, which was she felt like she didn’t fit in and this group of people found her and gave her a (really harmful) sense of belonging provided she conform to their norms. We talked her through this and about how to make better peer choices, what to do when she felt out of place, etc… Within a few weeks, we had our happy, healthy, fun, feisty, strong, creative, enjoyable, etc…. teen DAUGHTER back, who loved herself, her name, her identity, and all her previous hobbies and interests! Her self esteem returned almost instantly. I have held my breath waiting to see if she would go back to “trans” but I do believe now we have seen the end of it. She talks openly and even jokes about what an awful several months she had, she can’t believe she let those people talk her into trying to change herself (she is still especially angry with the social worker/counselor), and continues to move on with much more “normal” teenage issues and conflicts with her dad and I. LONG story short: PARENTS: follow you gut instinct. You know your child. Don’t let anyone else fill your heads with nonsense. Talk to your child, have a relationship with them where you can help without judging, find out what is truly bothering them and scares them, help them become their true selves. In this statement, I do want to include the very very tiny percent of children who truly are and have always been trans – they need to be their true selves too. The MAJORITY of these “cases” nowadays, though are brought on by political agenda and a society that doesn’t pay attention or give accolades to any person who isn’t a “victim”. Our children have been thrust into a truly awful contest in a challenge to see who is the most misunderstood, persecuted, special snowflake.

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    • Very similar story here. I wish I knew how many of “us” are out there. I am always hiding tears of joy when I see my DAUGHTER being herself – radiantly feminine and strong – doing all sorts of things gender conforming and not gender conforming and being happy! We have weathered this storm too.

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      • Thank you for the updates and so pleased that things have settled down for all of you.
        Terrifying how these children can be pushed – with mine it was by a psychiatrist and psychologist team at our children’s hospital who told my daughter that I probably wouldn’t support it so there was no need to tell me. We aren’t out of the woods by any means yet so I take hope from your stories.
        I feel for the kids who really are suffering from gender dysphoria and are being eclipsed by the number of kids trying it out. One of the teachers at my daughter’s school told me that they used to talk to the kids about self-harm but that backfired and became a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy (as in if they didn’t highlight it to all kids there were less kids doing it) and that she feels this is likely the same thing… they wouldn’t get there on their own.

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    • I believe this is the case with my daughter but she won’t open up and talk. We recently found that four of her small group of friends claim the same thing, that they are transgender boys. My gut is telling me that this is peer pressure related and a way that makes her feel accepted. She has very low self esteem despite how often I try to tell her how smart and amazing she is. This all started in October of 2016 for us as well. I’m scared and frustrated and I don’t know what to do. Growing up she never voiced that she thought she was the ring gender. I never saw any signs. This was a little girl who loved clothes and make up and going shopping with her Grammie. We never forced her to wear girl clothes and get her nails done, things she always chose. My inner Mama voice is screaming that this doesn’t feel right. I’m at a loss on how to help her. Any suggestions?


      • We aren’t fully through it yet so I may not be the best source, but I don’t embrace or fight it. I also don’t ignore it, and make a small reference from time to time to let her know that it is still on my radar. She doesn’t want to talk about it at home from what I can tell, and while she is going by a boy name at school her teacher isn’t buying it either. We had talked about choosing a boy name for her last month and come up with one that is derived from her middle name and that she likes because it was gender neutral. I thought we were changing everywhere but then she went to school and told the teacher she didn’t feel it was the right name (frustrating!). What I feel (and the teacher too) is that she has put this name and persona out there and doesn’t know how to take it back. It gives her prestige at school and she can be someone else – someone not struggling with anxiety like she is.
        We went shopping yesterday and all she did was try on funky female clothes and pose in them. I don’t see a boy, sorry.

        Our new, wonderful psychologist told me not to fight it, but not to do any of the work for her and see if she advocates for herself. She changes schools next year, hoping that this passes when she is with a new crowd of kids.

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      • My daughter started this the fall of 2016 also. I honestly envy the families that are dealing with this with young teens. It seems they are more pliable to come back. She is now at college and lives in a lgbtq+ activism community. So kind of them to place her there. I don’t know how she will ever find her way back.

        This is a kid that looked likeTaylor Swift. So super girly, glitter, pink,sequins, perfect makeup, membership to Birch Box, into Coach…Now, no makeup, greasy chopped hair, oh and eyebrows colored in to look like a meme online. There are moments she’ll call and I hear my daughter then there are times I see this lost soul that the world is “celebrating” for her finding her “true self”.

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      • To Scaredmama: My daughter didn’t want to talk to us either. We only talked to her about it once a week and made sure we didn’t mention it at all in between talks. My husband and I would come up with a message for each talk and keep it super short (about 5-15 mins) and always started with a positive – noticing what she did right – how she was becoming an independent thinker and many other positives that we noticed. She even said that even though she didn’t want to talk to us, she always felt better afterward. In the beginning, the only messages were “keep an open mind and we love you no matter what.” We pretty much stuck with that for a couple months, but then as it became more routine and easy to talk, we began to show her different ways of thinking about it than what she had be indoctrinated into (and we told her this – lets explore different ways of thinking about it). The next message was that gender dysphoria tends to be transient for most people but the social and medical actions can last a lifetime. She was not suicidal at the time. The next message was that there are people who regret their transition and have to live with unwanted side effects. Eventually we worked up to talking out different scenarios with her from being transgender to the one that we knew was reality – that her anxiety led to depression which led her to look online for help and then got sucked into using her gender as the reason for her issues. It worked for us. Best to you and to your loved ones.

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  2. A friend emailed this to me. Why can’t the issue be seen for what it truly is – a (mental) health issue, not a political one – in which case, all helpful research should be encouraged!

    Bath Spa University transgender research block labelled ‘astonishing’

    A therapist says he is “astonished” by a university’s decision to stop him studying people who decide to reverse gender reassignment operations.
    James Caspian wanted to write a thesis on “detransition” as part of his master’s degree in counselling and psychotherapy at Bath Spa University.
    He said it was rejected by the university’s ethics committee because it could be “politically incorrect”.
    The university said it couldn’t comment until after an internal investigation.
    Mr Caspian, a counsellor who specialises in therapy for transgender people, told Radio 4: “I was astonished at that decision.
    “I think that a university exists to encourage discussion, research – dissent even, challenging perhaps ideas that are out of date or not particularly useful.”
    He says he wanted to study people who had swapped gender and then changed their minds after coming across evidence of a growing number of people who regretted having the surgery and finding no research had been done into the subject.
    The university, formerly known as Bath College of Higher Education before gaining full university status in 2005, initially accepted his proposal but he struggled to find people willing to take part.
    He said: “I found it very difficult to get people willing to talk openly about the experience of reversing surgery.
    “They said they felt too traumatised to talk about it, which made me think we really need to do the research even more.”
    Better ‘not to offend’

    He amended his proposal – to include people who had transitioned to men and reverted to living as women but without reversing their surgery – and resubmitted it, but it was rejected by the ethics committee.
    “The fundamental reason given was that it might cause criticism of the research on social media and criticism of the research would be criticism of the university and they also added it was better not to offend people,” he said.
    According to the Times, it was rejected because “engaging in a potentially politically incorrect piece of research carries a risk to the university”.
    American transgender activist Riki Wilchins said studies on transgender people could have a “political undercurrent” and potentially have a negative effect on the way they are treated.
    “People have been launching studies that undercut transgender people’s access to surgery for decades now,” she told Radio 4.
    But Mr Caspian said older studies were out of date and the research was necessary “to help people”.
    He added: “The whole field has completely changed over the last few years.
    “The idea that we might use the information from the research I was going to do in a way that wouldn’t help people is completely wrong.”
    He is considering a legal challenge but is waiting for the university to conclude an internal investigation.

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  3. 4th Wave Now, I could not have made it through without your site and am eternally grateful. The work you have done is outstanding and you will never know what you have done and how many parents you have helped. My daughter read an online book called ‘Homestuck’ which she loved. From there the fandom was full of trans. She read and thought the gender ideology applied to her, which of course, it applies to everyone pretty much. She became depressed and lived in a Homestuck and tumblr world all the time. I realized she had changed and started looking at all her online viewing and phone activity. She was calling herself a transboy and my world went upside down. I spent days going online and crying because I could only find sites encouraging transition and praising these ‘special’ trans kids. I was online in a forum and someone posted a comment saying look for alternatives, this is not what it seems. That was enough for me to start looking and finally coming across the right words that linked me to your site. The cloud lifted and I found sanity and common sense. I followed what was posted here. I did not allow a name change or binder. I delayed using any tactic necessary. When she made the declaration to me, she was very sad and completely believed everything she had read. I knew it was coming, so I was able to be calm and neutral about it. I was worried about teen defiance, so I did not treat it like a big deal. I thought I would feed the victim mentality and push her further away. I found a Christian counselor who would be gender neutral and treat the anxiety and depression along with removing social media for a long time and internet for a few months. This lasted a year and half. It was long and hard, but I made sure every comment I made indirectly tested her ideas without being too obvious.

    She eventually moved away from the trans identification along with a few in her peer group at school. People may make fun of the hillbilly south, but many here have not swallowed the kool aid. I told the school counselor and she backed me up. I even talked to a local LGBT support who said wait and treat the anxiety. I was very fortunate she did not push the issue aggressively and kept it within her friend group. I think this made it much easier for her to let the identity fall away when it stopped making sense to her. She currently still has issues with anxiety, but now understands anxiety is the problem, not her body. I am still upset about the unquestioned support behind this movement, but once I explain to people its rooted in stereotypes, they are shocked.

    I do feel this movement is losing steam because there are just too many holes and the term has become too watered down to mean much of anything anymore. My heart goes out to all the parents who are dealing with this.

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    • Thank you for sharing your story. We are riding it out as best we can in our house and I keep focusing on treating the anxiety first. I am glad that worked for you.

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    • I think y’all would be a great substitute for all of those theys out there,
      The culture–yes, maybe we should all move south! I am glad your daughter survived this plague.

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  4. Stay strong. The ideology requires a narrow viewpoint, so as they mature, many will realize it does not make sense. Many of these teens are also quite obsessive and move on when they get tired of fixating on gender. It does require mental gymnastics to justify.

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  5. Hi All…..Need some help! Bad day on my page today! It had been pretty quiet the last few weeks from the other “side”, but today they have come out of no where on the attack! Could use some “likes” to anything or everything, some “shares”, some “comment” and some 5 “stars”! I’m trying very hard to keep it about the “blockers”, but my patience is wearing thin and I’m about to unleash on the whole Transgender Agenda issue! Thank you!


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    • Would very much like to help you! – Yet posting on FB is a public forum that is attached to my real name, and that’s just not something I can do at this point.

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      • Same here. People would start questioning why I’m interested and why I know so much about it. It would ruin all the trust that I built with my child if the word got out. She’d never forgive me and I cannot risk it. No one knows nor would anyone ever guess that this has happened to us in the last year unless I started posting or commenting about it in public. People think she was just more tomboyish last year and now she’s had a change of wardrobe to be more feminine/teenage-like (because she’s desisted).

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      • I most DEFINITELY understand those that can not reply! I would or may feel as you do if I were in your shoes! As I have said right from the beginning, my “fight” (though somewhat the same as yours) and quest (which somewhat differs) is a fight, I “feel”, I’m fighting somewhat alone, but I must start fighting now!!! Why? Because most that I see, here, and in many other places I have joined, are teen+! I love all those places, and have learned a lot. But I can not understand how this (transgender issue) went from private Adults, to young Adults, to Teens? And now CHILDREN? NO!!! I just say NO! There IS no ifs and or buts about it in “my” mind!

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  6. You should look into Mermaids ‘supporting’ an 11yr old girl on hormone blockers. Manchester area who’s foster carer is supporting this too.


    • Nope. Walt Heyer (sexchangregret) is an outspoken Christian so it’s easy for people to dismiss whatever he says as religious bigotry.

      Similarly, Michelle Critella (louderwithcrowder) is head of the American College of Pediatricians, a splinter group of conservatives whose stances also include no adoption by gay couples, no abortion, etc. Again, easy for ppl on the other side to dismiss as right-wing Christian bigots, a hate group.

      I say this as one who actually thinks the ACPeds statement on childhood trans is a well-written, nonsectarian statement.


      But the mainstream media won’t take those people seriously due to their other positions.

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  7. I’m the sibling of a brother who came out as “transgender” a few months ago. This was a complete and utter shock to my whole family. He never showed signs of struggle with his assigned gender. My parents would buy him anything he’d ask for. He rarely played with me when I played dolls or dress up. He loved trains and rocks and all kinds of things. Now, for me, I’ve had my share of lesbian/bi friends (even one who was pansexual) and saw how my one lesbian friend always took on the masculine role. So, finding out years later that she became a he was no shock to me. I could see it clear as day. But, my brother saying all this nonsense was extremely frustrating. I know in my gut that he is not a girl in any shape or form.

    Before he “came out”, he was on the Internet 24/7 and rarely socialized with anyone. He never had friends and was very much a social outcast (which made me realize that I believe he is Autistic and not transgender), plus he was adopted and his biological parents had a bunch of mental illnesses in their family, like depression, anxiety, autism, etc…

    The Internet is good and bad, but I believe that his medical illness (autism) and the major support and stupidity of people egging on others to be trans, caused all of this.

    At first, I was in complete shock, so I supported it blindly, like most people. I had watched many trans YouTubers before all of this, just cause I found this interesting and different. I’m a straight female that has no problem with my gender, but I know what it’s like to hate my body and wish I could change features of it as a teenager.

    Anyways, I tried to be blindly supportive and I’d ask questions, but he’d be so mean to me and my family. He’d tell us that “we should know this stuff.” Or just bluntly say “DUH. What did you think?” How was I supposed to know everything about transgender problems?! It’s why I was asking. I wasn’t mean when asking either. I genuinely tried. But, the meanness got worse as the months progressed. After a month, I started to have a gut feeling (after the shock wore off) that this was either a trend or something was deeply wrong (mentally) with him. Nothing added up or made any sense. He just became more hostile.

    My mom, shocked as well, bought him girls clothes. He looked like a 16 year old boy trying to be a 12 year old emo girl. He objectified women and it pissed me off. The clothes you wear don’t make you a woman in any way. He doesn’t even try to act female. He thinks that just wearing clothes is enough. He has a unibrow, bad acne, and awful body odor that he won’t even try to fix. He never even asked about a bra. I remember when girls would stuff their bras to try and look more womanly or older.

    My mom is so mentally drained that she’s confused as to what to do with him. The hate and meanness are getting worse as the months go on. I have no idea how to deal with this because it’s split my whole family up and caused all of us to fight. I feel more like the parent than my parents. My dad just ignores it, as if nothing ever happened.

    We just took his “girls” clothes away and told him to just finish out the school years (2) as a boy. The teachers and psychologist just blindly support him because they don’t want him to commit suicide.

    I just want to get away. I hate him. He’s not the brother I once loved and enjoyed. Some evil thing has taken him over and he just demands that we accept it or else. He has no care about our feelings since day 1. It’s all about him. But I know that many teens are like that. But not this stupid.

    I don’t know what to do.


    • take care of yourself. and your parents. i have had the same experience as you. it was 1968 and i was 12. trying to go through puberty questioning what makes a woman at a time in history when nobody was talking about this. it is very disturbing to a family. it broke up my family. we were never the same afterwards. i think it contributed to the early death of my father from a heart attack at 58. i tried to learn to live with it, but my brother had always been a very mean and cruel person. changing his sex surgically did nothing to mitigate this, and i had to distance myself from him as a her. ten years after surgery, my brother/sister was stricken with the effects of taking cross-sex hormones. massive strokes, embolisms, and multiple sclerosis rendered him paralysed, completely. thirty plus years later, he is still paralysed. i am the only person in my family who takes care of my brother/sister, who is in a hospital full-time with 24 hour nursing care.
      my thoughts are with you. take care of yourself first. your brother needs to be on his own, if he is old enough to be….he must be told categorically that his issues must not become your issues. it is hard, i know….but looking back myself, i wish my parents had just cut him loose to create a life of his own…you do not need this in your life, even if you think you can alter the course he is taking. he will mess you up with him….drive you crazy with his craziness. i have extreme PTSD from this situation in my family. i am 61 years old and it has taken years of therapy to sort myself out from the depression and suicidal ideations. if my brother can buy his womanhood, where did that leave me as a woman? big questions….many traumas trying to help him…he could not be helped. there are many underlying psychiatric diagnoses with cross-sex identified people. they hide under the cloak of this “transgenderism.”
      good luck and much love to you as you struggle with this…..


  8. Please help, I’m terrified and trying to keep it together. My 14 year old son told me today out of the blue that he has gender dysphoria. He has always been “boyish”, not into football/sport, but likes halo, call of duty etc Xbox games, and what we call his “nerdy” hobbies – magic the gathering card game, dungeons and dragons. He does spend a lot of time in his room or on the Xbox at home, but does have friends, all of whom have the same interests, and he socialises with them at school, but little out of school.

    He dropped this bombshell at 4.30 this afternoon and I have spent the last 4 hours looking at websites and talking to him. He clearly feels uncomfortable talking about it, but what I have got is:
    – his body isn’t right
    – He has felt not right for several months, and decided it was body dysphoria about a week ago after looking at YouTube videos and talking to other trans people online
    – He wants to wear girls clothes and make-up, but not as a boy, so in the future after transitioning.
    – He wants to speak to a counsellor so he can be diagnosed and start transitioning.

    I have:
    – not freaked out (somehow) , told him I loved him and that I want him to be happy, so if he is unhappy we’ll sort it out somehow
    – got him to agree that surgery is not an option in the near future, that it will be several years if it happens. That the whole process is a long haul thing.
    – tried to make docs appointment, got number for local counselling organisation to ring tomorrow
    – asked him to consider that it might be something else – body dysphoria?? Anxiety?? Depression?? He said definitely not latter 2, but wanted to know more about first. I couldn’t help, as I was kind of clutching at straws a bit.

    I’m so blind sided by this, we’ve always joked about calling him a nerd, as he seemed so comfortable in his own skin and not fazed by anything, so laid back he’s horizontal etc. There has been no trauma that I’m aware of, family life is stable, he says he’s not being bullied, he does well at school. But he seems so sure of this and with the lack of any trigger that could have caused him to latch onto this, I can only believe him. However I’m struggling with his complete lack of femininity both in dress, hobbies, actions, way he lives his life. When I bring this up he shrugs. I asked if he wanted to hang around with girls and do “girls things” ( no sexism implied, sorry, but everything he does is just so boyish) and he said not really.

    I’ve told my husband and he’s as shocked and confused as me. Where we are right now, is well, no-one’s dead and we’ll take one day at a time. But honestly I feel ill, not because of any issue with transgender people, really I haven’t. But because, well, he’s my boy, and I want him to be safe and well, and if he wants to change gender it’s going to be so difficult.

    Any advice gratefully received


    • Do not meet with a therapist until you have completely vetted them. This will have to be family therapy only so you know what is going on unless you absolutely trust them. Get rid of online access unless you can see absolutely everything. My take is that the younger this happens the more influence you as a parent have.

      Advice from other parents are to ignore what you can and get them involved with other things in life.

      I personally refuse to use an opposite gender name and will not purchase boy clothes when there are perfectly non gendered clothes sitting in her closet. I will not do anything I view as dangerous to my child’s well-being. I will not support anything if she will not engage in discussions with us.

      I do not believe therapist are effective anymore as they obviously don’t know how to challenge this narrative.

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      • Excellent advice. This is much the same as what we have done and our daughter is gradually coming back to us. We lost her to this crazy confusion for a while there. She is relizing her feelings are more to do with anxiety than anything else.


  9. I have complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (intersex condition) and had non-consensual surgery, which resulted in needing HRT since age 14 – I’ve also been concerned about young people making such drastic decisions about their healthy bodies at such a young age. As a teenager, I could not appreciate the pain of infertility, which I experienced in my 30s.

    I have tried to highlight some of my concerns via Twitter, but had my account temporarily suspended and currently shadow banned. Is this a common experience for people raising concerns?


    • Are you still suspended and/or shadow-banned? If you put your Twitter handle here we can raise awareness of it on Twitter. It shows how threatening trans activists find the opinions of a person who actually WAS “assigned a sex at birth.” So sorry about your experience. Would you consider writing a guest post for our site?


  10. I am glad that parents have this sane space as a resource. My story is from a different angle, but my experience with being attacked and censored for sharing that story is chillingly echoed here. My book, Sex Changes: A Memoir of Marriage, Gender, and Moving On (St. Martin’s Press), covered my and my children’s experiences as the family who suffer the fall out of a middle-aged transition. At the time I wrote and published the book, I could never have imagined the climate that exists today: from the rush to medicalize children who express an interest in gender change, to the intense censure of anyone who dares to engage in an open discussion of the issues. At least parents have a platform such as this in which to support each other.

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    • Thank you for commenting here–and for writing that book. What happens to families after men transition is never talked about (unless the wives are fully “supportive”). Journalists won’t touch it.


  11. In brief, I began to medically transition from male to female last year, and decided to stop after a month. I am interested in sharing my story with the readers of 4thwavenow, both as yet another story of how a young person figured out the truth about the modern trans narrative and to also elaborate about the medical dangers of medically transitioning. Regarding the latter: I work in the pharmaceutical industry as a research scientist, which has given me fairly unique insight into the what sort of dangers may be associated with taking hormones for years or decades.

    If you are interested in interviewing me, please reach out to my email, which I believe is provided. Do note that it is pseudonymous.

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  12. It was such a relief to see this page. Someone told me about this and I couldn’t believe it.

    I have been battling people for weeks and even more so the last two days after I posted my petition to STOP PARENTS AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS FROM TRANSGENDER CONDITIONING CHILDREN.

    Please take the time to read it:

    I got on facebook a few weeks ago looking for something like what you guys are doing and found NOTHING so I created a group and a page NO PURPLE UNICORNS, mainly to let others see the other side of this and understand what we are doing to our children is, beyond words, wrong.

    I will follow and share everything that you have.

    Thank you so much for doing this. Until I was shown your page, I really was starting to think I was one of the only ones out there trying to stop this.


  13. Comment: My husband recently came out,as transgender. We know for sure he has Major Depressive disorder and anxiety. He is currently on medication for. We have separated and he had moved to Ohio, but I am still gravely concerned. I would like to see if anyone knows a good psychologist and counselor in the Franklin Ohio vicinity that could help with his comorbid issues. His parents and I are desperate. He is not the least bit feminine and is heterosexual, which makes him even less likely to be happy transitioning.Any help is appreciated.


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