Meet Dr. Winters: computer scientist, “empty nest mom,” & top pediatric transition expert

Some of the most vocal and vociferous proponents of early medical transition for other people’s children are late-transitioning biological fathers. (Note: While most of these individuals now call themselves “moms,” the fact that their contribution to reproduction was undeniably via biologically male gametes—aka “sperm”– cannot be simply “identified” away.)

Many of these individuals weaponize the fear that gender-defiant kids will kill themselves if not socially transitioned, puberty blocked, and moved on to cross-sex hormones and surgeries at as young an age as possible.  But there’s something hypocritical about their belief in the “transition or die” orthodoxy: Many of these MtF activists–who no doubt consider themselves “truly trans”–transitioned later in life, yet somehow managed to avoid suicide themselves, enjoying long lives as men with lucrative and productive careers (quite a few in typically male-dominated professions such as the military, technology, and finance) and the opportunity to father offspring.

Kelley Winters, PhD., is one of the most prominent trans activists agitating for medical treatment of trans-identified children. Dr. Winters is on the International Advisory Panel for WPATH, is a member of the Global Action for Trans Equality (GATE) Expert Working Group, and is a board member of the youth-transition-promoting organizations Trans Youth Family Allies  and  Gender Infinity. The TYFA bio page lists many other accomplishments:

She has presented papers on the psychiatric classification of gender diversity at annual conventions of the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Counseling Association and the Association of Women in Psychology. Her articles have appeared in a number of psychology and psychiatry journals and in two books.

The Gender Infinity website has more about the “empty nest mom.”

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These are lofty achievements, but not unusual for a PhD.  What exactly are Dr. Winters’ credentials? Prior to transitioning, Winters, as a man, had a successful career in microelectronics design and research (mentored, as Winters says at the link, by another well-known computer expert and MtF activist, Lynn Conway, known for attempting to destroy the career of sexologist Michael Bailey, who had the audacity to write a book based on his research findings.) Winters’ PhD is in engineering and, in addition to trans-related activities, Winters is a photographer and retired computer engineer.

Kelley Winters is considered an expert on the medical transition of children, not because of any special training or demonstrated expertise in child or adolescent psychology, or a background in clinical research. Kelley Winters is a top speaker, writer, and expert on behalf of the medical transition of gender dysphoric children by virtue of the fact that Kelley Winters .… is trans.

As one of the most frequent commenters on the WPATH Facebook public group page, Winters’ commentary and opinions are almost always deferred to by the MDs, therapists, and other gender specialists in the group. Winters expends a lot of verbiage claiming that the top experts in the field of gender dysphoria have it all wrong in their decades of peer-reviewed research demonstrating that the vast majority of gender dysphoric kids desist from a trans identity.

Winters is most active on WPATH threads addressing the treatment of trans-identified children and teens—typically arguing, as yesterday, for less gate-keeping and more widespread availability of hormones and “corrective” surgeries for minors under the age of 18.

Winters corrective surgery for minors

Kelley Winters, PhD. in computer engineering, thinks there is “no basis in evidence” that teens ought to wait to make permanent life-changing decisions (aka “corrective” surgery). They can’t get a tattoo or use a tanning bed, but they sure as heck should be entrusted to undergo major surgery and sterilizing drug treatments. According to Winters, any reasoned suggestion that minors might lack the cognitive wherewithal to make such decisions is “purely political.”

Winters does raise one good point in that comment. Puberty-blocked kids do feel, rightfully, that they are left behind in prepubescence while their non-trans peers go through puberty and begin to explore themselves as sexual beings.  Gender doctors have created an iatrogenic problem, with an iatrogenic solution. The problem: Block puberty, thus freezing the kid in arrested childhood while their peers move on, making them naturally impatient for puberty themselves. The solution? Dose them with sterilizing cross-sex hormones and major surgeries as young as 12 or 14 years of age.

As does occasionally happen in the WPATH echo chamber, a commenter in the thread raises the question of whether youth are fully equipped to understand the magnitude of the decision they’re making.

 I am a little concerned about glossing over some of the sticky issues, though. .. For example, part of the socialization experience many youth experience can involve severe pressures to conform (including penalties for not conforming). Some unknown number of youth might be conflicted about genital reconstruction, or not want it at all, and yet be ill-equipped to resist these pressures. There is precious little support for gender-non-conforming girls or boys, or women or men, and even less for people who refuse that binary altogether. Can we spend as much energy on supporting people (youth and adults) who are in that middle or “other” ground as we do helping them move towards our culture’s comfort zones? Is it always a disaster to be different? I also wonder, should we be concerned about decisions affecting reproductive capacity? Many youth may have little awareness that as adults they may desire not only to raise children but also to play a specific role in genetic parenting. What discussions or support would need to take place in order for a youth to make an informed choice about a surgery that would limit reproductive capacity? (I never wanted children “of my own” either as a child or as an adult. But I know any number of people for whom this was a strong desire acquired in adulthood.)

The commenter makes some excellent points about supporting gender-defiant kids in general, as well as pointing out the fact that many young people have no clue what it means to choose to be infertile.  But Kelley Winters, PhD. in computer engineering, isn’t particularly worried about the maturity of trans kids. In fact, in Dr. Winters’ professional estimation, trans kids are more mature than their “cis” counterparts, endowed with the rather unusual adolescent ability to predict how they’re going to feel 20 or 30 years down the road:

Winters trans kids are more mature

“Virtually all of the trans youth I’ve been honored to know were remarkably conversant and thoughtful beyond their years on their own reproductive decisions.”In what universe are the judgments and assertions of 14- or 16-year-olds predictive of their future judgments and opinions? Young teens don’t get to vote, drink, marry, sign a contract (except, apparently, the one giving their “informed consent” to medical transition),  even get a tattoo—but by virtue of thinking they are the opposite sex, they are “mature beyond their years” when it comes to deciding on major surgery and chemical sterilization?

In the same comment,  Winters, who managed to live into adulthood to father biological kids, plays the suicide card, aka “better sterile than dead”:

Winters suicide

The specter of suicide (misused as always) is usually the conversation stopper, and this thread is no exception. But one point of interest here is how Winters started the thread– with a discussion about the trans reality TV star, 15-year-old Jazz Jennings, who has been on a testosterone-blocking implant and cross-sex hormones since at least age 14. Anyone who has recently watched TLC’s “I am Jazz” is aware that medical transition has not prevented this teen (by Jazz’s own admission—in episode 2, season 2) from feeling suicidally depressed, socially isolated, and in need of antidepressants (themselves known to carry a risk of increased suicidality in adolescence)—as well as a yearning for “the classical boobs you see on TV.”

I’ll ask the question I’ve asked before: Why are trans activists like Kelley Winters—particularly adults who transitioned later in life and are themselves parents (and grandparents in some cases)–so very interested in promoting early medical transition of other people’s children? Winters, like others who survived to transition as adults after passing on their genes, isn’t just agitating for the rights of transgender adults in housing, employment, or (even) bathroom access. They devote most of their advocacy to the medical transition of young people.

I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. They likely are convinced (or have convinced themselves) that this is the best thing to do for kids who say they want to be the opposite sex. Adult MtF transitioners who are also biological fathers, like Kelley Winters (and like this person I engaged on Twitter last month) believe that, in hindsight, if given the opportunity themselves in childhood, they’d have chosen medical transition with all that would have entailed–including, evidently, foregoing parenthood. How do they explain this to their own kids, I wonder?

But maybe–instead of promoting suicide contagion and the idea that a healthy young person’s body can be “wrong”–trans activists like Kelley Winters would be better off expending their energies on self-reflection; on the glaring fact that they themselves lived into adulthood without the need of a surgeon’s knife, an endocrinologist’s needle–or prepubescent sterilization.

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26 thoughts on “Meet Dr. Winters: computer scientist, “empty nest mom,” & top pediatric transition expert

  1. This is a wonderful post. I particularly liked this sentence:

    These are lofty achievements, but not unusual for a PhD.

    😆 Exactly. What a lot of puffery about his supposed expertise. Surely in something medical and psychological only medical and psychotherapy type expertise would matter. It just shows how much of a Fantasy Camp operation the whole transgender phenomenon is.

    Striking how they are so insistent on the idea that everything always goes swimmingly for ‘cis’ people. Meaning anyone who isn’t trans. So adolescence if you’re not trans is just a bowl of cherries. This is a weird resentful thing. That you don’t find in most equality rights movements. I mean just think of how much lesbians are involved in feminist politics to do with reproductive rights. Things that barring rape they’re not gonna need. Lesbians don’t go around saying straight women have it easy. Interesting contrast there.

    As for your question about why this fellow is so hyper focused on child transition, versus something more useful like regular equality rights (housing/employment) for trans people I’ve been thinking about that. I think it’s like ISIS. Bear with me this makes sense. After the Nice attack I was thinking about how ISIS wants with its attacks wants to create a backlash against Muslims in France. Why? Because when there’s a lot of across-the-board anti-Muslim prejudice it helps ISIS feel more confidence in their position that the west and Islam are locked in some death struggle. Of course it’s circular, what they are choosing to see has confirming their position is a state of affairs that their actions have produced. But this is a classical wrong way of thinking about things that people do. So I think these late life transitioners like Winter who are so overwhelmingly focused on child transition are doing the same thing. They are convincing themselves that what they did was right. And that the line about having a deep psychological need to change their bodies to match their psychological sex is all true and real. As real as kidney disease.

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    • ‘Striking how they are so insistent on the idea that everything always goes swimmingly for ‘cis’ people. Meaning anyone who isn’t trans. So adolescence if you’re not trans is just a bowl of cherries.’

      Yeah, this is so weird, especially in this context where they’re talking about blockers, hormones and surgery on perfectly healthy bodies as the magic fix needed to make these kids’ adolescence go better. Have they not considered the existence of disabled children? (lol, of course they haven’t) I had *necessary* surgery as a teen, all the medical appointments leading up to it, all the time I missed school, the lengthy time in recovery, all the admin issues that needed resolving and how I ended up having to drop subjects, all the pain and trauma, all of this was hugely isolating. I got bullied for how my body looked (scoliosis) before the operation, but that didn’t make it any kind of magical fix!

      They’re advocating for this but I don’t think the reality of what it involves is very real to them.

      Besides that it isn’t anything to be taking lightly, I think the idea that these kids will get hormones and surgery and then easily be dating just like their peers is, well, just deluded. Straight boys are not suddenly going to be queuing up to ask the same-sex attracted transgirl to prom.

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    • ‘Striking how they are so insistent on the idea that everything always goes swimmingly for ‘cis’ people. Meaning anyone who isn’t trans. So adolescence if you’re not trans is just a bowl of cherries.’

      Yeah, this is so weird, especially in this context where they’re talking about blockers, hormones and surgery on perfectly healthy bodies as the magic fix needed to make these kids’ adolescence go better. Have they not considered the existence of disabled children? (lol, of course they haven’t) I had *necessary* surgery as a teen, all the medical appointments leading up to it, all the time I missed school, the lengthy time in recovery, all the admin issues that needed resolving and how I ended up having to drop subjects, all the pain and trauma, all of this was hugely isolating. I got bullied for how my body looked (scoliosis) before the operation, but that didn’t make it any kind (scoliosis) before the operation, but that didn’t make it any kind of magical fix!

      They’re advocating for this but I don’t think the reality of what it involves is very real to them.

      Besides that it isn’t anything to be taking lightly, I think the idea that these kids will get hormones and surgery and then easily be dating just like their peers is, well, just deluded. Straight boys are not suddenly going to be queuing up to ask the same-sex attracted transgirl to prom.

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  2. ” Where the SOC fall short is by imposing “age of majority” restrictions that are strictly political, with no basis in evidence or reason.”

    …aside from at least a century’s worth of amassed research in child psychological and neurological development.

    I find the implications of this comment to be deeply disturbing, given that we know that Winters advocates for earlier and earlier ages of consent. If a 12 year old (or younger if they happen to reach tanner stage 2 early, which is not particularly unusual) is capable of “informed consent” to decisions that will irreparably alter the course of her or his life such as hormone blockers and/or cross-sex hormones, what other “age of majority” *consent* restrictions are “with no basis in evidence or reason”?

    The implications of this line of reasoning are chilling.

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  3. From a clinical point of view, what Dr. Winters is saying is nonsense. How can a child be “unusually mature” and “prone to suicide” both? Suicidal inclinations in adolescents are related to inability to cope with the problems they face. Yes, there are other factors as well, but this is a big one. Teens lack the maturity to understand problems as transient. They globalize issues and have trouble visualizing solutions, much less understanding that they can reach accommodation to problems that are ongoing. (Understand, I’m not saying this is necessarily true for suicidal adults.) They lack perspective. Mature enough to make drastic life-altering decisions, but not mature enough to resist suicide. Makes no sense to me.

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    • Right. One of the hallmarks of a mature thinker is that they have learned how to wait–in the interests of taking necessary time to make life-changing decisions. Mature people do not act impulsively. The need for instant gratification–“Give it to me now, or I’ll kill myself” is a childish reaction, certainly not a sign of someone with the cognitive wherewithal to make reasoned decisions about extreme medical treatments.

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  4. The fact that people with NO specialty in child development, medicine, or even psychology are spokespeople for making decision for other people’s kids is outrageous.

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    • Good point! And it especially doesn’t make sense for those without the right credentials AND who feel transgender to be treated as experts. You would think this would make it doubly inappropriate. Not only are they lacking the necessary educational background, but they also have all of the built-in biases due to their life experience. They’re likely not even able to be truly objective, which seems far from ideal.

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  5. I’ve long suspected that the reason middle-aged trans activists are so focused on transitioning kids, the younger the better, is to create evidence that transgender feelings are a life-long, unyielding condition because there is no evidence for this claim from their own lives.

    Gay people who started coming out in the 1980s-90s would be met with surprise from some of the people they told, but some (often life long friends or siblings) who were not surprised. When these men with long macho careers (such as military or police) come out as trans, there’s nobody saying “I kinda suspected that’s what this meeting was about”.

    Also, there’ a complete lack of mention of people “born in the wrong body” in history. Ancient Greeks & Romans wrote about gay people. The Catholic church identified homosexual behavior as sinful – showing they had heard of this phenomenon. But nothing mentioned about claiming to be in a body of the “wrong” sex. (And “two spirits” is about spirits – they aren’t called “wrong spirit in wrong body).

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  6. To add to my previous comment, let’s compare the below to pretty much all the comments from “professionals” and “experts” that have been posted on this site, regarding providing hormones and surgery to children:

    In a recent interview with Medscape Medical News, Dr. Orrin Devinsky, director of New York University’s Comprehensive Epilepsy Center, described the medical profession as at “an inflection point” regarding cannabis-derived medicine as an epilepsy treatment.

    “We all agree that there are good data about the effectiveness of CBD and THC in some animal models of epilepsy,” he said, “[but] there is still disagreement about whether children with epilepsy should be treated with medical marijuana. Some feel that the benefits far outweigh the risks, especially considering that many FDA-approved antiepileptic drugs have disabling side effects—especially when used at high doses in combination. Others feel that the potential toxicity of THC and possibly CBD on the developing nervous system do not warrant use without better data.”

    From http://www.vice.com/read/desperately-seeking-cbd

    So children with epilepsy, which is potentially life threatening and definitely disruptive of life, cannot receive treatment with marijuana (since it is illegal) because of concerns about toxicity to their developing nervous systems. Are there “good data” on the “effectiveness” of hormones and surgery treating gender dysphoria? Are there no concerns about “potential toxicity”?

    Rhetorical questions, yes. And I am not necessarily in favor of giving marijuana to children either. The differences in the approaches, though, are really pretty mind-boggling.

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  7. I think the reason for this focus on transitioning kids lies in the fact that these late transitioners are autistic. And one of the things about autism is a habit of looking backwards instead of forwards and wishing that things could be fixed in the past. “I cant fix my own past but perhaps I could fix others? . It is perfectly possible to get past this but they need to be aware of it. However, men arent usually self-aware because they have their feelings coddled life-long by women, even though they think women are terrible cruel bitches.

    Go and look at the Love-shy website…they are all autistic too. Guys who cant get girlfriends. When they occasionally do, straightaway, they arent happy. Why? Because now they start thinking not on what they have finally got, what they said they wanted, but on what they missed: the party-happy youth they imagine everyone else had. Seen these late-trans and their obsession with dressing as teens and going on about not going to the prom? They are literally trying to make it happen. To ‘fix’ the past. The Love-shy site should be required reading for anyone interested in this subject. You can see the identical mindset to the late-trans…there’s a guy on there who got the girl of his dreams and is now thinking of ditching her because he cannot bear the envy he feels of her exciting happy youth. She keeps telling him, God alone knows why, all about her previous vigorous sex life and he cant bear it, not through jealousy of the men, but because he wants to actually be her, herself. Would be very unsurprised to see the trans cult hit those guys and see them turn into ‘lesbians’ or into ‘women’ who want to be decorative parasites. They all think women have an easy life and they envy this total fantasy too…women can just ‘sell sex’ after all, how wonderful, wish I was a woman, they have it all, etc.

    So hence, these guys and their obsession with the young…they are convinced that “if someone had helped ME this way, look how happy I could have been” and since that cant happen, the next best thing is to make it happen for others. I cant even think they are genuinely concerned about the kids. This is a selfish thing, its attempting to live vicariously. But they wont see it that way, they will see themselves as kind, passionate, doing the job nobody else is doing, concerned with justice, willing to step up while everyone else just tuts about it and does nothing…like that. Guys like this one…the STEM field is also a give-away…he is trying to get what he didnt get, through kids he sees as no more real than Stepford Wives. Not his fault, he cant help his autism, but thats what it is, I would put money on it.

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  8. I wanted to add one observation to the trans-kids discussion, which I’ve seen mentioned before but not in great detail. And, it is something about which I have an unfortunate amount of awareness.

    In my own experience as a mother, and as someone who has been fortunate to have been entrusted with the care of other people’s kids, I have had the opportunity to deal with several teens and young adults who have chronic medical problems. And I can tell you that every single one of them finds being a “professional patient” to be frustrating, depressing and even humiliating at times.

    My own son had a congenital disease that led to a major organ transplant, at the age of 21. Since the time of the transplant, now five years ago, he has been on extremely strong anti-rejection medication (without which he will die), has to inject himself daily with anti-clotting medication, and has suffered a raft of complications and setbacks that have required repeated hospitalizations. He has medical tests and procedures on a monthly, if not sometimes weekly, basis. He has a large box of drugs and a drug regimen with which he must abide at all costs.

    Notwithstanding that he is, by and large, grateful for having received the transplant, he HATES being tied to the medical system. He HATES it that he cannot make plans, or travel, or make other life decisions, without having his medical condition first and foremost. There are places he simply cannot visit and things he simply cannot do, and this will persist for his life span. This state of affairs has led to emotional problems.

    I have also become familiar with the situations endured by teens with chronic diseases such as Type 1 diabetes, Crohn’s Disease, and kidney disease. Again, to a person, these kids would do anything not to have to be defined by their medical conditions, and to enjoy the freedom and flexibility their peers take for granted. Most of them soldier on the very best they can, and try to make the most of the lives they’ve been given, but it often strikes me as just so terribly sad that they have to go through this. It is one thing when you are in your 50’s or 60’s, many people by that time are diagnosed with chronic medical conditions and have to subscribe to medical regimes, but it seems so cruel and unfair when it is a young person, who should be carefree and not have to worry about any of it for decades!

    It must be that a teen or a pre-teen, and perhaps that child’s parents as well, really cannot conceive of what it will be like to be a “professional patient” forever. It is one thing, as seems to be the case, to experience the euphoria of “getting what you want” in terms of receiving medical help to appear to be your preferred gender or sex. However, it’s also true that no child can truly comprehend what it will actually be like, to spend the entire rest of your life in need of regular medical care and possibly many more interventions. Children receiving medical help to “transition” are a new generation. Nobody can really know how things will work out for them, medically, and of course we all hope for the best. But what we can know is that there are significant costs to being a “medicalized person,” and – once again – those costs are blithely “assumed away” by the “transition at all costs” brigade.

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    • Thank you for this post, worriedmom. I think the point you are making here is extremely important.

      Maria Catt (Carey Callahan) has touched on the high costs of being reliant on medication in some of her blog posts about her experiences while working in an ‘informed consent’ trans clinic:

      ‘…most people can’t understand what they’re signing up for as far as being dependent on doctors if they haven’t been dependent on doctors before. If access to doctor’s appointments hasn’t been the thing you structure your life around before transition, how do you understand that is part of the choice you are making? That means you choose where you live based on getting to a doctor who has seen a trans person who has had a hysterectomy before. It means you stay put once you’re in a work situation in which you can get to such a doctor.

      I didn’t understand this when I began testosterone. I didn’t fully get it till I worked at the clinic and saw all these young people in various states of crisis. Young people on disability because of the crushing social anxiety associated with being read as trans. Young people who needed revisions from surgeries they weren’t happy with. People who now needed to dilate daily but were too poor to afford lube to dilate with. Lots and lots of people on lots and lots of drugs.’

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      • Yeah, this is one of the major aspects of transition that haunts me as a parent. Kids, teens, and young adults generally do not have any idea of what a life yolked to the medical system is like. Unless they have special medical situations, like your family, worriedmom, they just have zero context for envisioning the long-term consequences of these decisions. Potential patients only see the short-term dream of creating a body like the body they see in their mind. Most of the glowing vids are not depicting people who’ve been using hormones (especially T) for a lot of years. They (in general, there are some exceptions) depict recent or semi-recent transitioners who are thrilled with the body changes and who haven’t yet had to deal with T-related issues or post-surgical complications.

        Activists and their enthusiastic provider-allies act like the need for tight ties to the med system, lifelong, is inconsequential. But it is not inconsequential. Even absent the financial aspects, the mere inconvenience of regular visits and labs, and the potential ‘trapped-ness’ of needing to stay in a location where a ‘trans-friendly’ med system is available — this stuff is NOT inconsequential. Why on earth would a person choose such a thing unless there were NO alternative? (The narrative that there IS no alternative is a linchpin of the current exponential growth in self-identifying trans kids, teens, and young adults.) And for my own kid — self care is not her strong suit. I can see her just skipping a lot of the recommended screenings, especially routine bloodwork, and preferring to get black-market T rather than getting it from a provider who’d enforce the bloodwork routine. This kid is not going to be taking a lot of time looking for a trans-friendly gyn; she’ll just skip the gyn screenings altogether. Not good.

        IMO the only way parents can be persuaded that the pros outweigh the potential cons is by being convinced that gender dysphoria (or whatever the psych community prefers to call these days) is an intractable and potentially fatal physical syndrome, like being diabetic or having an autoimmune disorder, or cancer. So that all the risky aspects of treatment are viewed as necessary evils compared with the potentially fatal physical thing.

        I’m not even talking about the questionable efficacy of transition in helping people deal with depression, dysphoria, or suicidality, long-term.

        It blows my mind on a daily basis that the med/psych/pharm community is so uninterested in research regarding non-pharm, non-surgical ways of helping people deal with dysphoria. Detransitioners have a lot of first-hand experience to contribute in this area, but none of the pros are interested in hearing what they have to say. (I know a lot of potential reasons for the lack of interest. But it still blows my mind, how this so rapidly became the first line of treatment instead of the last resort, at least in the U.S.)

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      • Puzzled, excellent post.

        “The narrative that there IS no alternative [to hormonal/surgical transition] is a linchpin of the current exponential growth in self-identifying trans kids, teens, and young adults.”

        This is spot on.

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  9. Two quick points that I wanted to add (and thank you for your responses, Puzzled and Artemisia) … we will never know for sure, but it seems that my son’s condition may well have been the result of an extremely rare reaction to a common antibiotic, prescribed by a dermatologist. One of those many warnings in “the fine print,” that we all gloss over and assume will never happen… until you are the unlucky one. You can see, though, why I am so extremely leery about the idea of unproven medical treatments and procedures for children and teens (and why the statement “this is the first line of treatment instead of the last resort” is so striking).

    I also wanted to mention that for almost 10 years I was a volunteer facilitator for the local branch of the nation-wide support group for parents of LGBTetc. children. We did not have very many parents who brought trans issues to the table, until about 2-3 years ago, when they quickly became the vast majority of the visits, calls and emails we received. In all of the trainings and information we received from the national organization, we were never once invited to investigate or evaluate the medical treatments we were actually advocating for children and teens. Believe me when I say, the ONLY permissible approach to a child or teen’s gender issues was complete “support” for the child’s expressed preference, and as much assistance as the child needed to accomplish whatever the child wished along those lines. I grew very uneasy about the fact that I was speaking from a position of almost complete ignorance. .. and then when we confronted this issue in our family, I decided to start researching the medical issues for myself. It didn’t take long at all before I wound up here! And resigning my position!

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    • In all of the trainings and information we received from the national organization, we were never once invited to investigate or evaluate the medical treatments we were actually advocating for children and teens.

      That was a shocking cop-out on the part of the organization’s policy makers.

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      • But it’s also a reflection of the extent to which virtually everyone who deals with LGBT issues, whether that is medical professionals, or volunteers, or psychological counselors (social workers, therapists), or teachers and professors, or journalists, or activists … or anybody, really, has completely internalized the PC approach to all things trans. The approach that was taken in the organization was pretty much to assume that anybody who questioned that approach was either phobic or crazy or both.

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  10. Putting young kids on hormones just reminded me that women as old as 30 are still routinely denied any procedures to sterilize themselves (either from not wanting children or high cancer risk/past cancer scares) on the basis of “protection from rash decisions they can’t undo”.

    Not to mention the roadblocks many women go through (myself included) just to get their birth control. Suddenly hormones and permanent body modification procedures are perfectly fine medicine when it comes to “identity”. They only need strict regulations when it comes to the choices of women.

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  12. The entire transgender issue actually multiple issues from top to bottom to patients to parents and support groups can be defined as chronic intractable dysphoria in which there are no happy endings just confused simulated outcomes which always remain fluid confused and ever-changing as transgender patients attempt to accomplish The Impossible through chronically dysphoric confusing treatment modalities and agendas from the far left and right of the sexual gender Spectrum and the politically correct which is nothing more than a trans truth philosophy at best

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